Re: [F_MINOR] F_MINOR Digest - 27 Dec 2004 to 4 Jan 2005 (#2005-1)

[J-C Ponsero <ponserj2@YAHOO.FR>]

A strange controversy is developing here...

Although I can't remember any occurrence of this term in my readings, I find
it quite cute. Since inner movements refer to central movements in the
sonata form, of which one is usually slow and therefore focuses on your most
intimate, or "inner" emotions, there is a kind of coherence. It also reminds
me of the German "innig" loved by Schumann (2nd piece of the Kreisleriana
for example).

Can anyone imagine some more connotations ?

Let's not be too fussy about musical terms, especially when there is no
well-designed, specific word. The essential is to convey a meaning. It's
like commeting on literature; using wonderful greek words for figures of
speech is less important than explaining what the figures themselves are
here for, what the author conveys through them.

Cheers

Jean-Christophe



----- Original Message -----
From: "lstanwyk" <lstanwyk@RYERSON.CA>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: Re: [F_MINOR] F_MINOR Digest - 27 Dec 2004 to 4 Jan 2005 (#2005-1)


> Not only do I have my B.Mus. and have been playing piano since age 4 (I
> won't tell you how many years since that would reveal my age hehe...),
> both my parents were professional musicians.. my grandmother was an
> opera singer, my sister and both my brothers are also in music.. so I
> therefore consider myself a somewhat humble authority on the subject...
> I normally hear a movement referred to as it's placement in the
> piece.... an 'inner' reference does not denote which specific movement..
> it's too general, since some pieces have several movements.  It's like
> saying: in a sandwich there are two slices of bread and 'stuff' in the
> middle... but 'stuff' doesn't exactly tell you what's in it!
>
> Cheers :p
>
> > "Cline, Eric" wrote:
> >
> > I have seen the term used from time to time in articles or even liner
> > notes on a CD. I believe I have seen it used in one of the liner notes
> > on one of the GG albums. Don't ask me which one. I have used the term
> > frequently in discussions over the years. I know for a fact that I
> > used the term in papers I wrote for my music classes in school.
> >
> > I never made the association with bodily functions. Interesting
> > association.....
> >
> > :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Eric Cline
> > Reichhold
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: F_Minor [mailto:F_MINOR@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU] On Behalf Of lstanwyk
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:17 AM
> > To: F_MINOR@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [F_MINOR] F_MINOR Digest - 27 Dec 2004 to 4 Jan 2005
> > (#2005-1)
> >
> > In all my years as a music student - mind you, I graduated in 1990 so
> > am
> > a bit behind the times and the memory is a little foggy - the term
> > 'inner' movement was never used as an official textbook reference to
> > divisions of music... Casually? Yes, I suppose so... E.g., 1st, 2nd,
> > 3rd
> > and 4th movements yes... but inner movements?  The term sounds silly
> > to
> > me - referencing to bodily functions more than musical strata lol...
> >
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