[f_minor] book

Melynda Szabototh melyndaszabototh at gmail.com
Mon Jun 28 12:52:36 EDT 2010

Hi to whoever is the organizer of this list,
Could you please remove me from the list? I had unsubscribed some time ago,
I guess before the change in management
Thank you

On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:33 PM, <velfred at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>   Thank you very much for the explnation.
> Fred
> --- On *Mon, 6/28/10, michael macelletti <mmacelletti at sbcglobal.net>*wrote:
> From: michael macelletti <mmacelletti at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [f_minor] book
> To: "Robert Merkin" <bobmerk at earthlink.net>, "Discussion of the Canadian
> pianist Glenn Gould." <f_minor at glenngould.org>, "gail paynter" <
> gmadoodat at hotmail.com>
> Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 7:53 AM
>  sorry  about getting a little excited about the word haptic, but it does
> seem to provide the missing term which describes the type of memory which
> most pianists use. ( and often with disastrous results ! )     and i'm happy
> to say, bob, that mr webster would totally agree with you is his fine book.
> no difference to him either.  but , if i might be excused for a little
> personal interpretation,  there may be a great difference. the term tactile
> seems to have been sullied by previous use, it's connection with the " feel
> " of , say, a fabric or  smooth piano keys. ( providing they aren't worn
> ivories ! ).    haptic, on the other hand, happily ( sorry about that )
> because of it's lack of familiarity, can easily make the bridge between
> touch and mind to my way of thinking.          it even sounds psychological
> !            i mentioned the disaster that can result in using this type of
> memory for a  concert. it's always a temptation to rely upon  it because
> most pianists will find that they can play a sonata without music ( and
> without mind !! ) in just a few months. then they try to play it for a jury
> exam or recital, they start to  " think " about the connections, and lo and
> behold, all is lost.  their hand memory, or haptic memory was an illusion.
>  and they slink away in disgrace.
> i have a feeling that gg relied upon this type of memory to a certain
> extent, in addition to his using great additional analytical skills. this
> might explain his shaking in bed on the afternoon before a evening concert.
> ( i mean, there are rather more than a few unnatural memory spots in the
> goldberg, as anybody would admit who plays it )   it might also explain why
> he used the loud  vacuum cleaner to distract his mind temporally  so that he
> could get through the ascending sixths passage in the  last movement ( var 5
> ) of  op 109. ( when suddenly, one day,  he couldn't play it ! )
> well, just a little digression on a day when it's honestly too hot in
> connecticut to do anything but think and then bother the f minors.   stay
> cool if you happen to be on the unfortunate side of the equator.
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Robert Merkin <bobmerk at earthlink.net>
> *To:* Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould. <
> f_minor at glenngould.org>
> *Sent:* Sun, June 27, 2010 11:39:10 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [f_minor] book
> *Thanks for the cool new word! But ... how does "haptic" differ from
> "tactile"?*
> **
> *Bob*
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* michael macelletti<http://us.mc824.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mmacelletti@sbcglobal.net>
> *To:* f_minor at glenngould.org<http://us.mc824.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=f_minor@glenngould.org>; gail
> paynter<http://us.mc824.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gmadoodat@hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 27, 2010 9:30 PM
> *Subject:* [f_minor] book
>  a  " must have " book for all gouldians :    " BRAVO FORTISSIMO " GLENN
> GOULD , THE MIND OF A CANADIAN VIRTUOSO ,   by helen mesaros.  and , believe
>  me, i've got them all.  this volume is  a veritable treasury of minutiae.
> i.e. where and when did he practice on the nassau trip. ( and who was there
> to witness it. ) , where was he when his teacher died, what bothered him the
> most about retirement. the word, haptic ( i never saw it before! ) and the
> beethoven 5.   enjoy!
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