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Re: got the coffee! not harumphing at you, Jim!



Actually, I didn't know that Paul Auster and Lydia Davis were married, but I am a fan of L Davis' wonderfully obsessive stories. I'm certain that the emotions behind the events if not the events themselves were keenly experienced by the author. There's no way she could have duplicated that sense of confusion and emotional tumult otherwise (I'm thinking of stories like 'The Letter' in particular.)
 
I have not read the Glenn Gould story but am eager to since author and pianist both have a kind of compulsion that shows itself in their work. I can't help but ask about such a story--why Glenn Gould; what is L Davis' connection with him (ie. why did she choose him over, say, Horowitz?)
 
These ARE questions about the author's personal life, but so what? What's wrong with wanting to know about her as a creator of fiction? Knowing that she was married to Auster gives me some sort of clue into the person she is and helps me understand what drives her to write the kind of fiction she does. I can't tell if Elmer is displeased because she is baring part of her private life to the world in the form of fiction or if he's displeased because someone has noticed it. Either way, if fiction doesn't come from the heart--what good is it?
 
BTW, Jim, thanks for the birthday wish...(I came out of the closet for you.)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 2:02 PM
Subject: got the coffee! not harumphing at you, Jim!

Yes! I've had my coffee now! (And reclaimed my pickup truck from the garage with just ONE DAY left to get it inspected.)

Jim, I wasn't grousing at YOU at all! I was grousing at the former Mrs. Auster and All her Ilk of either gender. (You've seen my earlier grousings about the former girlfriend of J.D. Salinger and her cottage website industry of extortion.)

I have a General Concern with Community, and what I feel are contemporary trends eroding and breaking down Community. I feel we are training a whole new generation not to respect or care about issues of privacy, discretion and trust, we are somehow training them to think that "keeping secrets" is some variety of dishonesty or lying, that ours will be a much more honest and New! Improved! society when everything that was ever done in private later is revealed to the world in its tabloids -- or, in this case, in upscale hi-tone fiction.

Okay, sometimes (very rarely) it's funny.

Earlier in the USA presidential campaign, a hot rumor surfaced that in his Wild and Insufficiently Documented Youth, George W. Bush once attended a wild Superbowl party hosted in Hunter Thompson's hotel room. When The New Yorker contacted Thompson to Confirm or Deny, he was disgusted: "You don't expect me to remember every drugged-out Yuppie who vomited in my bathtub, do you?"

When Simone de Beauvoir first visited America in the 1950s, her first hostess, Mary McCarthy, couldn't stand her and sent her 1000 miles away to Chicago with the phone number for the novelist Nelson Algren (whom McCarthy detested). de Beauvoir and Algren got along GREAT! For several years she would keep coming back to Chicago carrying on a torrid affair with this very interesting fellow.

One day Algren read that de Bouvoir had published a new novel called "les Mandarins," and dutifully trotted down to buy a copy. Back in his downtown Chicago apartment he was more than a bit dismayed to read many consecutive chapters about the fictitious French intellectual woman's torrid multi-year affair with the fictitious Midwestern American novelist -- with a name something like Belson Elgrin -- in lurid geographical and physical detail. And that's why the word for these sorts of things is French -- roman a clef.

One thing we don't see much of about GG -- because it's what the mathematicians call "The Negative Space," the part that's there, but un-seeable -- are all his friends, relatives and acquaintances who have Nothing Whatever To Say about GG's private life, thank you very much. But we do get hints that there were lots of these -- in naive times gone by, they used to be called Loyal Friends or Discreet People -- and they do not in the least feel that the mere fact that their friend has died alters in any way the expectations of privacy they shared with GG while he lived.

Harumph again, but certainly not harumph to Jim.

Bob

Jim Morrison wrote:

> Jim Morrison wrote:
>
> > Hi Alice,
> >
> > [Lydia] Davis was once married to the more famous writer Paul Auster
(another writer of obsessives!!) and I hear that her stories of break up and divorce and
> > based upon their relationship.  But I don't know for sure.  I'm just passing
> > along some gossip.
> >
>Elmer Elevator wrote:
> ick ick ick ick
>
> does no one anymore have any sense of privacy or trust or discretion?
>
> marriage and friendship and kinship ought not to be some sort of adjunct
annex > of The Maury Povitch Show. Sorry if things go south, but whose business is
that? > Are there therapists out there telling people, "You'll heal better if you
tell > EVERYONE every little detail of your marriage."
>
> Anybody remember Dory Previn, who made a cabaret cult act out of her ugly
little > songs about her nasty divorce from Andre Previn? In fact I insist: If you
OWN Dory Previn records, raise your hand.
>
> these times suck, where's the Time Portal to the 18th Century?
>
> Bob / Elmer
>

Hi bob, you may have meant this for the whole list.
Is so, please forward my response.

You know what, I guess it wasn't the classiest thing I've ever done
to bring up Davis and Auster's marriage, but I do know that there are
a few Auster fans on the list, as well as a few Davis ones, and since
Davis often seems to write about this bad early marriage, I thought it'd be
worthwhile to mention that she's in some ways writing about Auster and herself.

People know Auster.  People knew Davis.  Few seem to know they were married.

Authors often write about their real lives, so I think Elmer's criticism may be
a bit too strong.  Hopefully Elmer's got some strong coffee in him by now.

Jim

PS: I'm a believer in biographical information being able to enhance our
appreciation of art.  Art after all comes from human beings who are at least
partially conditioned by their environment, family, relationships, etc.
It's not necessary to know the details of the artist's lives to appreciate
their
work, but how many
of us don't actively seek out information on the artists we love?
If I can bring Gould into this little post, I'd like to defend our interest
in Lydia Davis and Paul Auster's marriage as being related to our interest in Gould
having never married, or our wondering on just who that beautiful girl is
that he mentions in one of his letters.

Bye,

Jim (who neither has nor knew about the Previn songs, though will now try to
track them down. Thanks for the recommendation, Elmer)