F_MINOR Digest - 15 Apr 2004 to 19 Apr 2004 (#2004-49)
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From: Nessie Russell Subject: Legends and the people who love them I received the following on another list. I thought perhaps it might generate some conversation on this list as well. Some of us geared into the last sentence - "The world of legend worship is patrolled and inhabited by very sad people, almost all of them men." I have to wonder if the last part of the sentence is fair. Is the first part fair? Any thoughts? http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,1193957,00.html /excerpt I'm proud to be an anorak Worshipping classical music legends is obsessive, but exhilarating Martin Kettle Saturday April 17, 2004 The Guardian Music would collapse without its legends. Take the legendary performers away and almost every type of music would be duller and poorer. Delete the legendary recordings from the shops and sales of CDs would plummet. Whether it's Sviatoslav Richter's legendary Sofia recital of 1958, Bix Beiderbecke's legendary 1927 solo on Singing the Blues or Kurt Cobain's legendary 1994 unplugged version of About a Girl, the legends keep music alive. The trouble with legends is that they simultaneously attract and repel. A casually overheard reference to Jess Stacy's legendary piano solo in Sing, Sing, Sing in the Benny Goodman 1938 Carnegie Hall concert consumed me until I tracked down the recording - and if you have heard it, you will know why. But there's a serious downside. The world of legend worship is patrolled and inhabited by very sad people, almost all of them men. ................. /excerpt ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ************************************************** Signoff instructions, and user preference interface: http://email.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=f_minor&A=1 F_minor Website (with early archive): http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~mwatts/glenn ************************************************** Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:27:27 -0400 From: Brad Lehman Subject: Re: GOLDBERG AGAIN... At 02:55 PM 4/14/2004 +0000, tarek kai wrote: >Hi friends, >i'm preparing my master thesis of musicology on the interpretation of >bach's keyboard music by glenn gould-comparative study of the goldberg >variations1955-1981.i've read all the interesting topics that you wrote >about the 2 goldberg and i'm wonde ring if anyone of you could tell me more >about the article that wanda landowska (or rosalyn tureck i don't >remember) wrote about the 1981 recording by gould.is there any translation >for the interview of gould and page (1981)in french(disc 3 of a state of >wonder)? Well...Wanda Landowska and Roselyn Tureck were diametrically different people from one another...it's difficult to think of a pair of fine keyboard players who were *more* different than these two, in musical approach! Anyway, it couldn't have been Landowska who wrote about the 1981 recording as she died in 1959. And there was a nice memorial LP of her by RCA, with some of the three-part inventions (sinfonias) followed by Landowska's spoken remarks introducing the two-part inventions, and then all the two-part inventions on side 2. As for a translation of the Page/Gould "interview", I don't know...but the first 10+ minutes of it were originally publish ed in _Piano Quarterly_ magazine in an issue from the early 1980s, soon after Gould's death. It was a plastic soundsheet to pull out and play on a turntable. Brad Lehman ************************************************** Signoff instructions, and user preference interface: http://email.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=f_minor&A=1 F_minor Website (with early archive): http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~mwatts/glenn ************************************************** Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:31:32 -0400 From: Brad Lehman Subject: Re: Legends and the people who love them At 01:55 PM 4/19/2004 -0400, Nessie Russell wrote: >I received the following on another list. I thought >perhaps it might generate some conversation on this >list as well. Some of us geared into the last >sentence - "The world of legend worship is patrolled >and inhabited by very sad people, almost all of them >men." I have to wonder if the last part of the >sentence is fair. Is the first part fair? Any >thoughts? Corollary: of those men, many believe they have *captured* the legend by buying the right things for their collections...as if mere possession of the legendary object gives them complete license to pontificate about it, and complete mastery of related topics. In music this leads to worship of the printed score, and the favoring of beloved recordings, as if either of those things (or both together) have captured the essence of the music. Brad Lehman ************************************************** Signoff instructions, and user preference interface: http://email.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=f_minor&A=1 F_minor Website (with early archive): http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~mwatts/glenn ************************************************** Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:15:13 -0400 From: "Anne M. Marble" Subject: Re: Legends and the people who love them From: Nessie Russell > I received the following on another list. I thought > perhaps it might generate some conversation on this > list as well. Some of us geared into the last > sentence - "The world of legend worship is patrolled > and inhabited by very sad people, almost all of them > men." I have to wonder if the last part of the > sentence is fair. Is the first part fair? Any > thoughts? I think some people are threatened by people who have "passions" -- whether that passion is Glenn Gould or Richter or for that matter, Star Trek. People still make jokes about Star Trek fans, science fiction fans, romance fans. I think it makes people feel superior, although in my mind, it usually makes them _look_ teeny tiny. ;-) This reminds of the woman who was one of the speakers at the Glenn Gould Gat hering in ... yeeeek, was it 1999?! Tamara Bernstein, I think. She covered classical music or art or something for one of the tabloid-y newspapers in Toronto. In her article about the Gathering, she talked about being in a room full of people who looked like they hadn't been laid in blankenty-blank years. Sheesh! How schoolyard! Phhhhbbbbttt. :-P ------ Forward Motion Writing Site: http://www.fmwriters.com My Blog: http://gorokandwulf.blogspot.com/ My Column: http://www.writing-world.com/romance/marble/current.shtml ************************************************** Signoff instructions, and user preference interface: http://email.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=f_minor&A=1 F_minor Website (with early archive): http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~mwatts/glenn ************************************************** Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:24:11 -0400 From: Nessie Russell Subject: Re: Legends and th e people who love them I wrote: >>"The world of legend worship is > patrolled > >and inhabited by very sad people, almost all of > them > >men." I have to wonder if the last part of the > >sentence is fair. Is the first part fair? Any > >thoughts? Brad answered: > Corollary: of those men, many believe they have > *captured* the legend by > buying the right things for their collections...as > if mere possession of > the legendary object gives them complete license to > pontificate about it, > and complete mastery of related topics. In music > this leads to worship of > the printed score, and the favoring of beloved > recordings, as if either of > those things (or both together) have captured the > essence of the music. If Yahoo groups are a true reflection of the real world I would have to agree with much of what you said. It does seem to be mostly men who write in. Men with very large music collections. Well, those of us who love Glenn Gould can't be accused of worshipping the printed score :-) ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ************************************************** Signoff instructions, and user preference interface: http://email.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=f_minor&A=1 F_minor Website (with early archive): http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~mwatts/glenn ************************************************** Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 21:13:07 -0400 From: Nessie Russell Subject: Re: Legends and the people who love them --- "Anne M. Marble" > I think some people are threatened by people who > have "passions" -- whether > that passion is Glenn Gould or Richter or for that > matter, S tar Trek. You may be right. > This reminds of the woman who was one of the > speakers at the Glenn Gould > Gathering in ... yeeeek, was it 1999?! Tamara > Bernstein, I think. She > covered classical music or art or something for one > of the tabloid-y > newspapers in Toronto. > > In her article about the Gathering, she talked about > being in a room full > of people who looked like they hadn't been laid in > blankenty-blank years. Her article made a Big Stink!! I wondered at the time how a person like her got to be a speaker at the Glenn Gould Gathering. ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca ************************************************** Signoff instructions, and user preference interface: http://email.rutgers.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=f_minor&A=1 F_minor Website (with early archive): http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~mwatts/glenn ************************************************** |