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Re: Bob's Stupid Musical Question



Glenn Gould did comment in quite some detail on Op.19. He wrote the liner notes to his studio recording with Leonard Bernstein. My copy of these liner notes came with the Glenn Gould Legacy series of recordings. I think this set of liner notes is reprinted in "The Glenn Gould Reader". I remember Gould commenting on the opening theme figuration as being an "inverted Mannheim skyrocket" and that he thought that Beethoven's cadenza to the first movement, which was written IIRC 10 years after the concerto, was the best cadenza that Beethoven ever wrote. I also seem to remember reading that Glenn Gould conducted the concerto with another piano soloist at the end of his life. I think he must have liked the concerto quite a bit.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Elmer Elevator [mailto:bobmer.javanet@RCN.COM]
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Subject: Re: Bob's Stupid Musical Question

 

Wow! You're smart! You know some STUFF!

 

I like how he offered it to the publisher for a discount. I wonder what 20 percent off of Beethoven's Fifth sounds like. I see a recording label, all the covers are just UPC bar codes, and you can get cheap discount versions of all the classics. The orchestras meet secretly at night in the corners of big parking lots. The conductor wears a mask.

 

In the '80s, New Yorker movie critic Pauline Kael wrote about a new trend in mega-popular Hollywood mall movies ("Titanic" is a good recent example) ... she described them as movies that have powerful impact while you're watching them in the dark theater, but they're entirely consumed while you're in the theater. An hour later, you can't remember anything about them, they leave no permanent emotional or æsthetic impress. Entirely consumable in the theater. That's what this piece sounded like to me.

 

Did GG ever comment critically on this piece? He sure seems to have rehearsed it Real Well. Even playing live -- he hit all the right notes, splicing could not help him in Leningrad. What's sort of unique about this live orchestra recording is that I can't hear any of my beloved humming; the orchestra drowns it out, I guess.

 

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Cline, Eric <Eric.Cline@REICHHOLD.COM>
To: F_MINOR@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU <F_MINOR@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU>
Date:
Monday, April 29, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Bob's Stupid Musical Question

This work, Op. 19 was really Beethoven's earliest serious attempt at a piano concerto. There is an earlier work in E-flat major, written when Beethoven was 14 or so in Bonn, but it is clearly the work of a talented student. Beethoven's C major concerto Op.15 actually post dates Op.19 by several years.

I know that Beethoven told his publisher that Op.19 was "not my best work" and offered it to them at a discount. I also know that he revised the work substantially from its earlier version.

However, IIRC the earlier version is now lost. Beethoven may also have been working on an alternate finale which has been published as the Rondo in B-flat for piano and orchestra. The Rondo was not completed by Beethoven, but by Carl Czerny. I agree that Op.19 is not his best work, but it is still far superior to that of his contemporaries (except of course Mozart).

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Eric Cline
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Graphic Arts Synthesis Group
Reichhold, Inc.
Global Coating and Performance Resins
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