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RE: [F_minor] doubts



It is strange, but refreshing, for me to see one who seems so taken aback by some of Glenn Gould's recordings. They are sometimes quite...perverse, I believe is the word Glenn Gould would have used. But perhaps it is important to think of the challenges that these interpretations posed to the classical world, and finding beauty in them that way. I do not understand one thing however, and that is the Brahms and its dreariness. There are some very fine moments in the Brahms, although perhaps it is a little on the heavy side of things. I do understand the revulsion against Mozart certainly, but then again Glenn Gould always made it clear that he wasnt particularly fond of Mozart. And with a personality like Glenn Gould's, matching such genius with a big sense of humour, something strange was bound to happen. Also, Glenn Gould's Beethoven, although not particularly standard or authentic, is absolutely fabulous, particularly things like the Hammerklavier. Could you maybe elaborate more on why the Brahms and the Beethoven seem so questionable to you? I would certainly like to hear. Not that I am looking to pick a fight, I am just curous; perhaps the questions you pose will change me as well.
 
Singh > To: gzarlino@hotmail.com; mmacelletti@sbcglobal.net; f_minor@email.rutgers.edu> Subject: Re: [F_minor] doubts> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 22:17:38 -0500> From: promonde@aol.com> > > How many people got exposed to Glenn Gould and find his playing transcendent? I am one of those. I never paid attention to other pianists before, but this particular one caught my ear. This from somebody who never paid attention to classical music. And from that early listening experience, yes, I have been exposed to many other historical and present day pianists. All who have something to offer. But none have had the effect that GG has had on my listening experience. Was he the best at what he did? What was it that he did? Just play the piano? Nah, he created a universe based on his own precepts of how things should be done and did them that way. Along the way he captured the attention of people like me. Let's see how many other pianists get to have their own F_minor's a quarter of a century after passing from the scene. > It has been a long time since we have had a good old raging debate at the F_minor corral. Bring it on. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: James Wright <gzarlino@hotmail.com>> To: mmacelletti@sbcglobal.net; F_MINOR@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU <f_minor@email.rutgers.edu>> Sent: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 8:20 pm> Subject: RE: [F_minor] doubts> > > > > > > > > > > > It's hugely healthy and provocative to see dissenting opinions such as this one > appearing on the f-minor list. If this list is about sycophantism, please > cancel my membership. That said, while I might be inclined to agree with you > about most of Gould's Beethoven and Mozart, have you heard his recordings of the > Brahms Intermezzi? Fair enough if you think they are dreary, but then our ears, > hearts, and minds must work quite differently. And anyone who would blunty > dismiss all of Second-Vienna modernism simply has not heard many of Gould's > recordings of this music, or is not listening.> > JW> > James K. Wright, Ph.D.Supervisor of Performance Studie
s in Art > & Culture: MusicCarleton University, OttawaJames_Wright@carleton.ca(613) > 520-2600 (ext. 3734)> Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 11:23:21 -0800> From: > mmacelletti@sbcglobal.net> To: F_MINOR@email.rutgers.edu> Subject: [F_minor] > doubtsMike> > listening to richter one realizes what an amazing pianist he was. > everything he plays is great. --listening to gould lately i have doubts. sure > the first goldberg and inventions are wonderful. but, honestly, some of the > other interpretations. ???? the mozart and beethoven are ridiculous, the brahms > dreary, chopin ? well i don't have to go there./ schoenberg and webern ? who > knows how they should go ( and frankly , who cares ) sure, we've heard some > strange new pieces. but really, when you need the uplift of mozart can you > really go to gould. mike > _______________________________________________> > F_minor mailing list> F_minor@email.rutgers.edu> https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/f_minor_______________________________________________> F_minor mailing list> F_minor@email.rutgers.edu> https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/f_minor> > > > > > _______________________________________________> F_minor mailing list> F_minor@email.rutgers.edu> https://email.rutgers.edu/mailman/listinfo/f_minor
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