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Re: GG: Background and foreground
Ditto and a hearty second to everything
you say about the true nature of Nature, and its orderliness and conformity to
laws as well-understood and universally recognized as the laws of Western (not
Country & Western) Music.
The original posting was talking about
the culturally perceived aesthetics of the Baroque world -- grand architecture
and flowing ball gowns Good, floods, volcanos and loud, scary noises Bad. God as
a RECOGNIZEABLY orderly sort of European aristocratic gentleman who makes easily
recognizeable Beauty and picks up after himself and never frightens children or
horses.
Nature embraced and revered as a scary,
terrifying, uncontrollable, violent, unpredictable thing was an equally
distorted aesthetic of the Romantic period. The French Revolution colored that
view a great deal, just as the militarily orderly God-annointed princedoms of
Europe that preceded it flavored the Baroque vision.
Cristalle's stirring defense of True
Science and Nature begs a nosey question: You a scientist? What kind? You like
the scary, noisy stuff?
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>At the risk of going incredibly far off-topic
for this list, there is one
>point I would like to add from a scientific
perspective.
>I think you're right about the human mind seeing order as
chaos. The thing
>is, all those things you've mentioned -- landslides,
asteroids, volcanoes,
>etc, etc... all conform to the INCREDIBLY orderly
and complex laws of
>physics.
>Don't necessarily equate
"order" with good things and "chaos" with bad
>things.
Bad things can be just as orderly as good things. The chemical
and
>physical equations involved in calculating the eruption of a volcano
show an
>incredible amount of complexity.
>If God exists, then,
he/she/it is definitely interested in order. (If God
>wasn't interested in
order, science would be non-existent, as things would
>happen without any
cause or method of explanation. One of the great unsolved
>questions in
science is, "Why should our universe conform to such complex
>and
orderly laws? Why don't things just happen without any cause? Why
can
>events be described mathematically?") The laws of physics and
mathematics
>that control our universe definitely show us that God likes
order.
>It just might not happen to be the kind of "order" we
like, that's all...
>
>Cris Watson