[f_minor] Scriabin

Houpt, Fred fred.houpt at rbc.com
Tue Jan 31 12:47:16 PST 2012

I for one did not compare Scriabin to Bach and it would seem to me a useless exposition.  Bach was entirely wonderful and is without a doubt a pillar of the Western canon of art.  Scriabin was not but that doesn't reduce him to poverty and disuse.  He has his place and in my view he is best viewed as a moderately important romantic Russian, who stands (in my view) below Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff.  
As for berating, people do so when in fact it's just an opinion.  We all know we're just expressing an opinion...there are no absolute rights or wrongs in musical appreciation.
Fred Houpt


From: f_minor-bounces at glenngould.org [mailto:f_minor-bounces at glenngould.org] On Behalf Of Jörgen Lundmark
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:40 PM
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould.
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Scriabin

I still don't understand the need to berate things one doesn't appreciate. If Gould, Horowitz, Richter, Sofronitsky, Feinberg, Berman, Hamelin etc., et.c. felt that Scriabin was worth the effort, I don't feel there's any point calling his music "lot of impressive motion and noise, but not much else". Gould did on several occations rate Scriabin highly, especially compared with many contemporary composers. Also, I don't see the point of comparing Scriabin or most other composers with Bach. The latter had such immense influence over music history and wrote so many seminal works that only Beethoven and Mozart cut the mustard in my humble opinion.

Let's instead talk of things we like, and what Gould did or could have brought to that music.


	bravo, fred !!!   you have said it perfectly. and your instincts are correct. don't feel you have to re-listen to scriabin to find what you have been told you missed. for you have missed nothing.  you won't find much more the second time around.         don't get me wrong.  mr scriabin offered a breakthrough ( or continuation ) in the destruction of key, and the chance to play the world's hardest piece, according to s. richter.  ( the only problem  with the latter is that now EVERY pianist plays it to deserve that prestige ).    and there are very impressive clusters of musical color. but the problem is that it's a little like mickey mouse , the sorcerer.  a lot of impressive motion and noise, but not much else.------ in the same league with your bach ? nope,  not a chance. 


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