[f_minor] more on R.Tureck and GG
Anne French
afrench6 at cox.net
Mon Aug 9 23:45:09 EDT 2010
Great post, Elaine. Now I want to read this book. And I do NOT play the
piano (at least not in public)... but the mechanics, tuning, all that have
always fascinated me. Also, I'll have to go back and read prior posts in
this thread, because the Tureck thing sounds fascinating too. So thank you
again.
Anne
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Elaine Parks <elaine19c at yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I'm not sure how familiar everyone is with Katie Hafner's terrific book "A
> Romance on Three Legs: GG's Obsessive Quest for the Perfect Piano". It's a
> must-read for those of you who actually play the piano professionally and a
> really interesting book for the rest of us. Anyway she describes Tureck
> literally experiencing a revelation about Bach's music which led to her
> knowing she "had to create an entirely new technique for playing the piano
> as a result"; and also that she certainly did some trailblazing in playing
> the Goldbergs at Juilliard. Hafner does say Tureck was "put out by Gould's
> achievement" and her Bach became "yesterday's news" when his Goldbergs album
> made him a star.
>
> I think it's somewhere in a radio interview Tureck very graciously says
> something to the effect that she's flattered by Gould's praise of her Bach;
> in another book (sorry I don't remember which at the moment) it's recalled
> she said more bitterly "he played them the way I did" or close to those
> words. One has to feel for her.
>
> To return to Katie Hafner's book, she writes about GG's superhuman speed
> and that "Gould's playing resembled Tureck's, but his tone was more
> seductive, and his approach, especially in terms of rhythm, was more
> dynamic...with one recording GG proved that he could play the piano like
> nobody else in the world".
>
> Personally I find her version very beautiful and other-worldly (is that a
> word?!) But I find his mesmerizing. Maybe it can rightly be said that
> without her example, his GVs wouldn't have been the way they were.
>
> That book gets a lot into the mechanics of how pianos were/are made and
> what different famous pianists liked in the action/tone/keys etc. of their
> pianos; and how a tuner spends literally dozens of years perfecting his or
> her craft. Amazing stuff.
>
> Cheers, Elaine
>
>
>
>
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> Thank you, Elaine, for your marvelous info. It's so nice to have a
> corroborating guidance.
> For me (as my subjective opinion) Tureck's influence on Gould goes without
> saying,
> and perhaps this is why the both players go hand in hand on my list,
> without belittling others, as the best female and male Bach player.
>
> Have a good weekend.
> SDC
>
>
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> From: Elaine Parks
> Date: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:17 PM
> To: f_minor at glenngould.org <http://mc/compose?to=f_minor@glenngould.org>
> Subject: Re: [f_minor] Tureck and Gould
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> Indeed GG credits Tureck with having greatly ifluenced his playing of
> Bach. You can find one of these instances in Jonathan Cott's interviews
> ("Conversations with Glenn Gould"): "I did like Tureck's recordings
> enormously - Tureck influenced me...she was the first person who played Bach
> in what seemed to me a sensible way...playing of such uprightness".
>
>
> Cheers, Elaine
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> Believe me, I'm not going to be banging on about this forever but
> if while you're listening to this you are not also in mind of Gould's
> 1981-82 recording then pardon me but you haven't listened to Gould's second
> Goldberg.
> Microsoft hotmail has does something bizarre by offering a little
> video box at the beginning of each email which I did not ask for. Forget
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> http:///www.youtube.com/watch?v=HExHrFt2pPM&feature=related
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> Mary Jensen
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