[f_minor] Bravo Fortissimo Howler

michael macelletti mmacelletti at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jun 30 10:20:44 EDT 2010

fred, you're absolutely right. the brahms speeds seem quite normal nowadays.  maybe back then they were not considered so. , although i don't remember it.  i mean. the serkin was out then and he's not that much faster, just a little more pompous.  gould does have a way , though,  of breathing new life into worn-out chestnuts.        too bad about toronto. nice city. 

From: "Houpt, Fred" <fred.houpt at rbc.com>
To: Discussion of the Canadian pianist Glenn Gould. <f_minor at glenngould.org>
Sent: Tue, June 29, 2010 4:13:57 PM
Subject: Re: [f_minor] Bravo Fortissimo Howler

What a funny thing for Gould to say.  I was recently 
listening to his infamous Brahms Piano Concerto with Bernstein and the NY 
Phil....this is on You Tube (bless them for all the goodies uploaded)....and you 
know I found myself not finding the interpretation of the first movement as 
outrageous and as "teetering" on the edge of sanity as many felt when they first 
heard it. The thing with Gould's extreme interpretations is that he is almost 
shouting at us like a Zen Roshi to wake up and listen to a very familiar piece 
in a totally fresh and unique way.  Gould used extremism to make those 
points, much to many people's dismay.  I don't know...as I age I am not as 
put off by the exaggerated mannerisms....and I am more apt to try to grasp what 
his enormously fertile intellect is endeavoring to uncover, even if by grossly 
overt means.  
Finally for now, I also put on GG on Y.T. playing a few 
extracts of the Art of the Fugue by Bach and you see that this was late in his 
career....and what fascinated me more than the actual playing which was 
ethereal, was the (again) extreme hand gestures as he conducts one hand over the 
other which was playing.  It seems on the surface level to be a bit 
teetering towards spasmodic almost epileptic body motions but then he just as 
quickly subsides when adding the second hand, not losing one single watt of 
energetic motion.  It's mesmerizing to watch as it is so calming to listen 
I'll be taking a powder from the office 
Cheers from bombed out downtown Toronto (don't even ask 
what last week was like)
Fred Houpt

 From: f_minor-bounces at glenngould.org 
[mailto:f_minor-bounces at glenngould.org] On Behalf Of maryellen 
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 4:00 PM
To: f_minor at glenngould.org
Subject: [f_minor] Bravo Fortissimo 

"I take a powder right after a concert because I 
have this kook contingent who follow me from place to place, and some of them 
are really teetering on the balance." 
- Glenn 

 "Take a powder" is old slang for leave quickly, 
disappear, get away fast. 

 I recently sent the following to another 
member of this List:
 Bazzana (Wondrous Strange) quotes Gould's 
unsent 'personal ad' on pages 321, 322, "Wanted: Friendly, companionably 
reclusive, alcoholically abstemious, tirelessly talkative, ..." etc etc which 
ends with the address "Avalon Peninsula, Nfld." BUT in Mesaros' book the 
same 'personal ad' is quoted on pages 341,342 with the address: "Anaton 
Penisslow Nfld." Can you believe that? I'm afraid that the Freudian Dr. 
Mesaros made an erroneous Big Penis out of a geographical feature and Gould's 
notoriously tricky handwriting: 
         From Avalon Peninsula to Anaton Penisslow! 
More than most 
I love anagrams, wordplay, double-entendre, homophones,
The London Daily 
Telegraph cryptic crossword and I can assure you that
Mesaros is a clumsy 
wordsmith at best - howlers ahoy matey.
 Mesaros really needed a 
proofreader and a fact checker. Another case in point is an entry in a Gould 
'notebook' quoted on pages 349,350,351 in Bazzana and pages 340,341 in Mesaros. 
Mesaros states that the text concerned Gould's feelings for Cornelia Foss 
(although her name never appears) BUT Bazzana states that the text is from a 
Gould 'notebook' dated 1980. Bazzana doesn't use conjecture, he states a 
fact, a date and doesn't presume to know who Gould was scribbling about. Sure - 
let's talk about Mesaros' book, by all 


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