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RE: [F_minor] Re: Cornelia Foss reveals all!!!
It is: relax! We're just riffing on a theme that started out at today's
news about Gould supposedly having an affair. So, it is not so far
fetched what we've written today. Most of the time we just stick to the
music; it's the summer time and we're a bit laid back and looser.
Honest: we will return this station to our normal starched collar any
minute now.
Ahem.....
Fred
-----Original Message-----
From: f_minor-bounces@email.rutgers.edu
[mailto:f_minor-bounces@email.rutgers.edu] On Behalf Of Pol Gerbeau
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:41 PM
To: bobmerk@earthlink.net; F_MINOR@email.rutgers.edu
Subject: RE: [F_minor] Re: Cornelia Foss reveals all!!!
I thought this is a Glenn Gould forum.
Please unsubscribe me.
>From: "Robert Merkin" <bobmerk@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: bobmerk@earthlink.net
>To: "F_MINOR@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU" <F_MINOR@email.rutgers.edu>
>Subject: RE: [F_minor] Re: Cornelia Foss reveals all!!!
>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:13:00 -0400
>
>Well uhhh back in my college days there was a joke about being a
trisexual.
>Someone would ask, "What's a trisexual?" And you'd reply: "I'll tri
>anything once."
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: paul wiener <pwiener@ms.cc.sunysb.edu>
> > To: <bobmerk@earthlink.net>; Houpt, Fred <fred.houpt@RBC.COM>;
>F_MINOR@EMAIL.RUTGERS.EDU <F_MINOR@email.rutgers.edu>
> > Date: 8/27/2007 12:49:54 PM
> > Subject: RE: [F_minor] Re: Cornelia Foss reveals all!!!
> >
> > Yes, I agree with you. It was just a minor oversight of our
> > discussion. But what is the fifth sex?
> >
> > At 12:44 PM 8/27/2007, Robert Merkin wrote:
> > >Victor Borge asked the audience for requests, and someone yelled
>"Bach!"
> > >
> > >Borge replied, "Johann Sebastian? Or Offen?"
> > >
> > >But I assume you mean George rather than Ira.
> > >
> > >George Gershwin had an intense ten-year affair with Kay (nee
> > >Katherine) Swift, a composer with the distinction of being the
> > >first woman to
>score
>a
> > >(successful) Broadway musical, "Fine and Dandy" (1930). When she
> > >met Gershwin (like Foss, she was married with kids), she was
>Julliard-trained
> > >(before it was named Julliard) and a somewhat snooty classical-only
> > >worshipper. Gershwin pursuaded her to explore popular music.
> > >Besides
>the
> > >jazz standard "Fine and Dandy" she wrote the classic torch ballad,
>"Can't
> > >We Be Friends?" (I have Bing Crosby crooning it.)
> > >
> > >Her first husband, the banker Jimmy Warburg, wrote her pop lyrics,
> > >apparently to compete with Gershwin in the tug of war for her
>affections.
> > >
> > >A much richer biography, and plenty more interesting stuff
> > >(including photos of a Very Attractive Flapper), is at the website
> > >of the Kay
>Swift
> > >Trust:
> > >
> > >http://www.kayswift.com/bio.html
> > >
> > >Meanwhile, I'm a little surprised that several of today's posts
> > >imply
>that
> > >the human libido only comes from the factory in two strictly
> > >separate varieties, Straight or Gay. There's a third possibility
> > >about some of
>the
> > >musicians we're mentioning.
> > >
> > >And, in my experience, a fourth possibility. Maybe a fifth. We take
> > >it
>for
> > >granted that great composers go all over the emotional landscape,
> > >from
>holy
> > >to vulgar, from joy and rapture to grief and melancholia. Is it
> > >likely
>that
> > >the romantic and sexual identity of such people would be
> > >comfortably trapped in just one of two rigid categories?
> > >
> > >Bob / Massachusetts USA
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Houpt, Fred <fred.houpt@rbc.com>
> > > > To: paul wiener <pwiener@ms.cc.sunysb.edu>; yuzu
><yukaz36@hotmail.com>;
> > ><f_minor@email.rutgers.edu>
> > > > Date: 8/27/2007 10:16:19 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [F_minor] Re: Cornelia Foss reveals all!!!
> > > >
> > > > Beethoven had lovers, that much is pretty much accepted. And he
>most
> > >likely used the ladies of the night as well. Copeland and Rorem
> > >were
>gay?
> > >See how little I know......
> > > >
> > > > And, lest we forget, Leonard Bernstein was bi. Wasn't Gershwin
gay?
> > > >
> > > > Fred
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: paul wiener [mailto:pwiener@ms.cc.sunysb.edu]
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 10:10 AM
> > > > To: Houpt, Fred; yuzu; f_minor@email.rutgers.edu
> > > > Subject: RE: [F_minor] Re: Cornelia Foss reveals all!!!
> > > >
> > > > Opposite sex ? Copeland? Ned Rorem?
> > > >
> > > > Beethoven? (do prostitutes count?)
> > > >
> > > > At 09:20 AM 8/27/2007, Houpt, Fred wrote:
> > > > >Hi all. I have no problem with imagining Glenn having a love
> > > > >life, even a sexually open one. What I do have a problem
> > > > >imagining, is
>him
> > > > >letting a lover touch, grasp or squeeze his hands. Laugh as
> > > > >you
>will
> > > > >at my innuendo, but that is the one thing I cannot see him
>allowing.
> > > > >Platonic love? Nah, Glenn seemed way too passionate and in the
> > > > >arms
>of
> > > > >a women I can just see him acting in a much more relaxed
> > > > >way....physically. But, we do not really know any of this for
>sure.
> > > > >
> > > > >It makes me think out loud on the topic of having sexual
relations.
> > > > >Let's take a vote amongst ourselves. Which famous composer
> > > > >never
>had
> > > > >relations with the opposite sex?
> > > > >
> > > > >Brahms? Nah, too many prostitutes all around his early days.
> > > > >Schubert? Ditto.
> > > > >Vivaldi? Don't know anything about his life really.
> > > > >
> > > > >Anyone else have any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > >Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > >Fred Houpt
> > > > >Toronto
> > >
> > >
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