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RE: [F_minor] Re: Zenph 55 G'bergs released! (Brad Lehman)



But even a slightly different touch can produce a vastly different sound. Nobody can ever play the exact same thing twice, but every pianist has his/her own touch, therefore a music lover should be able to tell who is who without seeing a printed name. Are you sure the machine can reproduce a Gould touch? What if it ends up sounding like a machine?
Singh



From: paul wiener <pwiener@ms.cc.sunysb.edu>
To: "Chester Singh" <k_dawg71@hotmail.com>, yukaz36@hotmail.com, f_minor@email.rutgers.edu
Subject: RE: [F_minor] Re: Zenph 55 G'bergs released! (Brad Lehman)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:29:33 -0500


I think you're overestimating how exact the technical specs have to be to reproduce sound. Remember, Gould was in love with technology and depended on it, even expected it to save music from live performers. How come he wasn't worried about these issues? I'm sure even Gould himself couldn't have reproduced exactly the performance he had recorded.



At 02:21 PM 3/9/2007, Chester Singh wrote:
One question that I keep asking myself, is whether this new technology can actually reproduce the exact colours that someone like Glenn Gould could produce. I have come to doubt that it can. I doubt it because I myself am bent on becoming a concert pianist, and so I know how hard it can be to utilize the exact touch that you need for a particular. Is this new technology really up to producing all the different touches that a live pianist can? Or that Glenn Gould could? I doubt it, but maybe I'm wrong to do so. Technology remains a machine, and I doubt that a machine can reproduce the different subtelties that are necessary in order for the piano to be played well.
Am I right to doubt?


Chester Singh

From: "yukaz" <yukaz36@hotmail.com>
To: <f_minor@email.rutgers.edu>
Subject: [F_minor] Re: Zenph 55 G'bergs released! (Brad Lehman)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:23:28 -0800

Is his humming in tact? Although this is only my concern that should not forced upon anybody else,
this issue stays important to me.
I catch myself many times thinking that while this is a great project and WELL worth giving it a shot listening,
it may at the same time leave a whole in my heart without his humming I have come to adore so much.


In the film "Hereafter", I could not help noticing this lady speaking about her piano teacher and that
how Gould's humming was very appealing to him for it gave him a feeling of there was a human behind it.
I sure feel the same way.


I'll probably give it a try, though.

Yuka Zuver


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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:40:28 -0500
From: Brad Lehman <bpl@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [F_minor] Zenph 55 G'bergs released!
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I'm an old man and I don't trust any music I can't touch or see.

Remaking old recordings by sampling everything down to the Nth? This
buys into the fallacy that great artists still would have played exactly
the same way in a different acoustic, or if the playbacks at the
sessions had had better recorded fidelity on the detail in their
performances, or with a different piano, or on a different day, or, or, or.


A Folgers Crystals sketch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn9gaTgYRZc

Which is obviously a take-off of the real Folgers commercials.  Various
things get replaced with the freeze-dried instant, secretly, to see if
people notice.  Other parodies of those have also been done.

That's not to say that remakes aren't enjoyable, or worth listening to.
 But the ghost in the machine goes only so far.


Brad Lehman



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